Sunday, 3 February 2008, 20:00 GMT

This chat was archived on 3 February 2008 - 9:27pm.

[20:27] bdieu: Mc Intosh from Wikieducator

[20:27] bdieu: will be talking to us

[20:27] bdieu: probably on Wednesday

[20:27] patricia.glogowski: great mark!

[20:27] jenverschoor: Great to read this!!

[20:27] patricia.glogowski: hi jose :)

[20:27] Lucy: It's quite daunting how for every tool you learn about, there are another ten new ones you've never heard of

[20:28] namckeand: But gradually, you can add to what you know.

[20:28] illya: It's continual growth - some stay and others fade away

[20:28] patricia.glogowski: what you like and what you need

[20:28] bdieu: I am gald you are enjoying it Mark and lookig forward to your feedback so we can improve on it

[20:28] Gabriela: it's challenging

[20:28] jenverschoor: That´s exactly why I find this so wonderful

[20:28] namckeand: It would be hard to use them all.

[20:28] joseluiscabello: Pownce, for example, is better than Twitter

[20:28] patricia.glogowski: becomes easier with time

[20:28] jenverschoor: Only if I have a second life :-)

[20:28] joseluiscabello: But Twitter was the first and we stay where people are

[20:28] illya: you can tell wich ones to have a closer look at by the number of people using them

[20:29] illya: and seeing how they use them

[20:29] bdieu: Lucy...once you get the gist...it is easier with the others..hence my questions in week 1 to observe, compare, contrast and the language used

[20:29] AnnF: is Pownce similar to twitter?

[20:29] Gabriela: and what for

[20:29] Lucy: Yes, Pownce offers much more, but sometimes it's nice to be restricted

[20:29] markosborne: Yes, I agree Lucy.

[20:29] joseluiscabello: Similar, but you can share files

[20:29] illya: to each a purpose (or 2 or 3)

[20:29] jenverschoor: It´s sometimes hard to change once you get used to the tool

[20:30] Lucy: Pownce lets you embed pics and videos and doesn't limit your message length

[20:30] bdieu: as Alan Levine mentioned in one of his presentations - you learn a lot just by being there :-)

[20:30] Lucy: You make friends on one tool and want to stay there

[20:30] Gabriela: that's true

[20:30] patricia.glogowski: then pownce becomes like blogging or facebook

[20:30] jenverschoor: Just by lurking

[20:30] joseluiscabello: Right, Jennifer, for example, Stumble Upon, Mr Wong, people say are better than Delicious

[20:30] Lucy: You become a friends junkie and try to up your followers numbers

[20:30] AnnF: I found changing tools e.g. form Blogger to WordPress quite a trial

[20:30] bdieu: it´s a different tool then, Lucy - more like a blog

[20:31] jenverschoor: I also heard that but I like delicious

[20:31] Lucy: Seems so,

[20:31] patricia.glogowski: stay with one tool you like

[20:31] patricia.glogowski: too much diversity can lead to your online death

[20:31] jenverschoor: In general it´s the first one

[20:31] bdieu: I like to experiment with different ones - and then I can choose

[20:31] joseluiscabello: I also prefer Delicious because I am used to it and have my network there

[20:31] AnnF: wouldn't eant that

[20:31] bdieu: the one that best fits my purpose

[20:32] Lucy: Often the case with these things, there are no clear demarkations

[20:32] Lucy: Yes, and it's the one you know

[20:32] jenverschoor: I also like Facebook but can´t see how to apply it with my students

[20:32] bdieu: what is good is that you can now export your data from one tool to the other

[20:32] namckeand: I started with furl and then moved to del.icio.us. It's hard to change, but not impossible.

[20:32] bdieu: this is what I did with my Blogger posts

[20:32] bdieu: only open tools allow it though

[20:32] bdieu: you cannot export data from Facebook for instance

[20:33] jenverschoor: I use blogger with my students and wordpress for my professional development

[20:33] bdieu: they own all your content

[20:33] illya: I don't always look at how to use tools in class

[20:33] Lucy: I tried Simpy soon after starting with delicious but it had too many bugs

[20:33] AnnF: I like drupal, it's more flexible than moodle

[20:33] bdieu: and can do whatever they want with it

[20:33] bdieu: Moodle is a learning management system

[20:33] namckeand: I imported my blogger blog to my wordpress blog a while back, but I couldn't get myself to give up blogger. Now I am glad I didn't.

[20:33] illya: sometimes they are helpful just in my developemtn as a teacher outside the classroom walls

[20:33] patricia.glogowski: i have to use blackboard at school pain

[20:33] jenverschoor: Me too I find Drupal very interesting and Rudolf helped out a lot

[20:33] namckeand: I love Moodle.

[20:34] Gabriela: I cannot get used to wordpress

[20:34] Lucy: I've been happy with blogger. Offers lots of different language scripts (e.g. Thai) which I need cause I support teachers of other languages

[20:34] namckeand: Whay, Gabriela?

[20:34] bdieu: what are the advantages of blogger, Nancy?

[20:34] markosborne: Does changing window focus result in the leaving/joining chat messages coming up?

[20:34] namckeand: For me it isn't an advantage as mucha s habit.

[20:34] Gabriela: I doesn't let me do anything

[20:34] joseluiscabello: I think Blogger is easier to manage than Wordpress

[20:34] Gabriela: or I don't know

[20:34] AnnF: changing window focus - seems like it

[20:34] namckeand: I t has a different feel.

[20:34] bdieu: What do you want to do, Gabriela?

[20:34] Lucy: Blogger has a pretty simple interface

[20:34] Lucy: That's good for my needs

[20:34] namckeand: Or maybe people jsut know me there.

[20:35] Gabriela: edit

[20:35] namckeand: A post?

[20:35] patricia.glogowski: everybody left suddenly?

[20:35] Gabriela: template

[20:35] Lucy: I'm still here

[20:35] namckeand: Seems like,

[20:35] Gabriela: change things

[20:35] jenverschoor: I think that is the key question it all depends on what you want to do

[20:35] namckeand: Was it something we said?

[20:35] namckeand: Good, Lucy. Thanks.

[20:35] Lucy: Need to change our deodorant#

[20:35] patricia.glogowski: i like blogger and i like wordpress. both are cool

[20:36] bdieu: people are being ejected or are they leaving?

[20:36] patricia.glogowski: i think they left voluntarily

[20:36] bdieu: lol, Lucy

[20:36] markosborne: Was it something I said?

[20:36] bdieu: Must be the connection

[20:36] AnnF: maybe something to do with our connections?

[20:36] illya: maybe just looking at another page?

[20:36] illya: it also thows you out

[20:36] namckeand: Seems like people are here but not showing up on my screen as being here.

[20:37] illya: I can't see Jose

[20:37] patricia.glogowski: the good thing is that the colours have changed, so now it's easier to see who says what

[20:37] patricia.glogowski: after they left and came bacak

[20:37] namckeand: Well, there are fewer of us. That makes it easier, too.

[20:37] jenverschoor: I can see him

[20:37] AnnF: 12 people on my screen

[20:37] jenverschoor: I have 12 users

[20:37] illya: where?

[20:37] Gabriela: me too

[20:37] patricia.glogowski: right side

[20:37] illya: I have 5, no 4

[20:37] markosborne: I'd just like everyone to know that I didn't choose my color.

[20:37] namckeand: Me, too.

[20:37] bdieu: I have just refreshed

[20:37] patricia.glogowski: refresh, illya or go somewhere else

[20:37] jenverschoor: refresh

[20:37] namckeand: No patricia, no mark.

[20:38] patricia.glogowski: it's not bad, mark :)

[20:38] Lucy: I was thinking of starting a virtual staffroom (for my institution) with Moodle but now I'm considering Ning. What do you guys think?

[20:38] bdieu: 9 people me

[20:38] jenverschoor: but bring some Swiss chocolate to the conversation Illya

[20:38] AnnF: think you need alest me if new users checked to see everyone

[20:38] namckeand: Now they are all here.

[20:38] markosborne: I can see 9

[20:38] joseluiscabello: For an institution, better Moodle

[20:38] patricia.glogowski: 12 i insist

[20:38] illya: Jenn, thanks for the tip!

[20:38] bdieu: Check whether you can keep your data if ever Ning closes down

[20:38] Lucy: jose, why?

[20:38] Gabriela: 10

[20:38] illya: Hi Jose, hello Maryann

[20:39] jenverschoor: Welcome Maryann

[20:39] joseluiscabello: Because there is a better control

[20:39] bdieu: Welcome Maryanne

[20:39] Maryanne: Hello everyone. Sorry I'm late.

[20:39] namckeand: Glad to see you.

[20:39] Lucy: Thanks bee and jose

[20:39] illya: Maryanne-no problem

[20:39] bdieu: What kind of control do you need, Jose?

[20:39] joseluiscabello: By the way, you can WiZiQ to Moodle, for conferences

[20:39] markosborne: I can see 10 now there's me 1 guest

[20:39] Gabriela: 8 users on the left and 10 on the right

[20:40] Lucy: What is WIZIQ

[20:40] namckeand: Really? I didn't know that, Jose.

[20:40] Gabriela: sth is wrong

[20:40] bdieu: it´s a conference platform

[20:40] AnnF: About Moodle dupal - with drupal you can configure the control that you want

[20:40] patricia.glogowski: everybody left again!

[20:40] joseluiscabello: I mean, in Moodle you can control what participants do

[20:40] bdieu: Rudolf, is it possible for us to save this chat?

[20:40] Maryanne: It's a great, free teaching tool.

[20:40] markosborne: And my colour's changed now

[20:40] bdieu: you can configure control on Wordpress as well

[20:41] Rudolf: yes.

[20:41] joseluiscabello: In the sense there are different levels of administration and participation

[20:41] illya: The color changes every time you log off and then back on

[20:41] Maryanne: I just spent 3 hours in WizIQ through EVO tips and tricks group.

[20:41] bdieu: you can even have your posts behind a password if you need it

[20:41] joseluiscabello: Right, but Moodle allows more possibilities

[20:41] illya: It's a virtual classroom

[20:41] jenverschoor: Wiziq can be used as a virtual classroom

[20:41] joseluiscabello: It depends on what we want to do

[20:42] bdieu: synchronous classes, yes Jenn

[20:42] joseluiscabello: Wiziq is a great tool

[20:42] Lucy: bee, in WiZIQ?

[20:42] AnnF: think it's just looking to see what platform/tool suits the job in hand

[20:42] jenverschoor: Wiziq is equipped with live audio-video communication, chat, content sharing, and session recording

[20:42] bdieu: WIziq is a conference platform like Elluminate

[20:42] jenverschoor: Just copied this from the site www.wiziq.com

[20:42] bdieu: but again...you do not own your content afterwards

[20:42] joseluiscabello: Yes, but it's free

[20:42] bdieu: it's theirs

[20:43] bdieu: the free has a cost

[20:43] Maryanne: What do you mean by "it's theirs", Bee

[20:43] patricia.glogowski: never used WIziQ but it seems cool

[20:43] joseluiscabello: So what you do there becomes theirs?

[20:43] Lucy: Same with Twitter right?

[20:43] bdieu: you cannot retrieve your content

[20:43] jenverschoor: They control it?

[20:43] patricia.glogowski: what did you use it for?

[20:43] illya: we could set another chat time on wiziq, next Sunday?

[20:43] patricia.glogowski: great idea, illya!

[20:44] patricia.glogowski: we'll see how it works and what we can use it for

[20:44] illya: it's quite straight forward

[20:44] bdieu: if you read the legal terms in Facebook for ijnstance you will find out they own all the content and posts you make there

[20:44] jenverschoor: Could be done at the same time

[20:44] patricia.glogowski: 19GMT

[20:44] illya: there were critical voices about facebook sharing data with others

[20:45] Lucy: Facebook scary ties

[20:45] namckeand: It is hard to imagine, Bee, that anyone would want to use the content of a chat like this, for instance.

[20:45] patricia.glogowski: microsoft bought flickr everybody is backing up their files

[20:45] jenverschoor: I found so many old friend in Facebook

[20:45] bdieu: this is the kind of reflection we would like you to engage in

[20:45] namckeand: But I can see the danger.

[20:45] illya: Great idea, Patricia!

[20:46] namckeand: It will be interesting to see what changes that brings.

[20:46] illya: sorry, I'm a bit late - the date for next weekend, of course

[20:46] jenverschoor: Also heard that Microsoft wants to buy Yahoo

[20:46] patricia.glogowski: ok. i got lost for a second

[20:46] patricia.glogowski: the date for next sunday is feb 10

[20:46] namckeand: Yahoo owns Flickr.

[20:46] illya: microsoft missed the internet boot and wants to catch up

[20:47] illya: boat

[20:47] Lucy: And Microsoft wants to buy Yahoo

[20:47] patricia.glogowski: i think it did already

[20:47] bdieu: Well..I must leave you in ten minutes but would like to invite you to join me at the Blogstreams Salon, which I hold every first Sunday of the month at Tappedi

[20:47] illya: ? that's very new news!

[20:47] patricia.glogowski: feb 10 @19 GMT WIZQ - illya

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