Sunday, 3 February 2008, 20:00 GMT This chat was archived on 3 February 2008 [18:57] bdieu: Hi, Welcome Anne [18:57] bdieu: Hi, Welcome Anne [18:58] vances: trying again [19:01] bdieu: Hi Vance, can you read me? [19:01] bdieu: Hi Vance, can you read me? [19:06] guest-13: ... [19:06] guest-10: ... [19:07] guest-13: . . . [19:07] guest-10: . . . [19:07] guest-13: | | | | || ||| || | [19:07] guest-10: | | | | || ||| || | [19:08] guest-13: | | | | [19:08] guest-10: | | | | [19:09] Lucy: Just testing [19:10] bdieu: Hi Lucy..can you read me? [19:10] bdieu: Hi Lucy..can you read me? [19:12] Lucy: Yes, but kids still not sleeping [19:12] Lucy: so I'm not really paying attention [19:13] bdieu: ok..just testing as well [19:13] bdieu: ok..just testing as well [19:23] bdieu: Welcome girls :-) [19:23] bdieu: Welcome girls :-) [19:23] vances: anyone here? [19:23] vances: I'm not a girl [19:24] illya: Hello Vance and Bee, I'm here too [19:24] sabridv: Hi everybody [19:24] bdieu: Sorry Vance...was welcoming the girls who have just joined :-) [19:24] bdieu: Sorry Vance...was welcoming the girls who have just joined :-) [19:24] illya: Cool - I like the way colors ae alotted to each person :-) [19:24] vances: nice to see you [19:24] vances: hi [19:25] sabridv: where are you from? [19:25] illya: I'm from the US (Seattle), but live in Switzerland [19:26] vances: I'm in Abu Dhabi, Bee is in Brazil [19:26] bdieu: @sabridv I am from Sao Paulo, Brazil ...what about you? [19:26] bdieu: @sabridv I am from Sao Paulo, Brazil ...what about you? [19:26] sabridv: I'm from Buenos Aires Argentina [19:26] illya: btw- if you don't like your color, just leave the chat and come back again ;-) [19:26] bdieu: :hugs Jenn [19:26] bdieu: :hugs Jenn [19:26] jenverschoor: Hello everybody :-) glad to be here [19:27] illya: Hi Jenn ((hugs)) [19:27] illya: Hi Ann and sabridv [19:27] sabridv: Hi Illya nice to meet you [19:28] illya: my pleasure as well :-) [19:28] jenverschoor: Lovely sunny day here in Buenos Aires [19:28] illya: It was lovely here too, but cold! [19:28] bdieu: Very warm here [19:28] bdieu: Very warm here [19:28] sabridv: yes you are right jenverschoor [19:28] illya: I froze my feet off at the Fasnacht parade [19:28] bdieu: Hi Nancy...good to see you here [19:28] bdieu: Hi Nancy...good to see you here [19:29] vances: I'm afraid I'm going to have to politely doff my chapeau and take my leave [19:29] illya: :-( another time I hope [19:29] sabridv: jenverschoor whre are you in bs As? [19:29] namckeand: Hi! It is sunny but cold here where I am! [19:29] vances: yeah, pressure to turn lights off here [19:29] illya: Hi Nancy [19:29] namckeand: Hi! [19:29] vances: but it's nice to see everyone [19:29] jenverschoor: Bye Vance !!! [19:29] vances: enjoy [19:29] jenverschoor: Hello Nancy read you are Twittering [19:30] illya: good night [19:30] vances: (must preserve the marriage ... ) [19:30] patricia.glogowski: hi everyone [19:30] namckeand: Well, sort of. I feel as stupoid twittering now as I used to feel blogging! [19:30] jenverschoor: Sabrina I´m form Zona Norte and you? [19:30] bdieu: Hello Patricia, long time no see [19:30] bdieu: Hello Patricia, long time no see [19:30] namckeand: Hi, Patricia! [19:30] illya: Hi patricia [19:30] patricia.glogowski: long time indeed :) how is everyone? [19:31] patricia.glogowski: i see i missed vance by a split second lol [19:31] sabridv: jenverschoor I'm from Zona oeste 8ramos mejia) [19:31] jenverschoor: Hello Patricia glad you are here!! [19:31] sabridv: hi Patricia [19:31] illya: Vance was up late and went to bed [19:31] bdieu: Still jet lagged but doing surviving [19:31] bdieu: Still jet lagged but doing surviving [19:32] illya: Hows carneval? [19:32] patricia.glogowski: how was your trip,bee? [19:32] jenverschoor: Please save one of the puppies for me!! [19:32] illya: bee, did you see my twitter? [19:32] illya: my son would LOVE a puppy! [19:32] jenverschoor: Mine too!! [19:33] illya: :-D [19:33] jenverschoor: But I already have a dog and a new vacation member a bird [19:33] patricia.glogowski: how would she send them to you? [19:33] bdieu: one little one died yesterday (too weak) but the others are faring well [19:33] bdieu: one little one died yesterday (too weak) but the others are faring well [19:34] jenverschoor: Sorry to hear that :-( [19:34] illya: bring them personally? [19:34] bdieu: so now we have 10 [19:34] bdieu: so now we have 10 [19:34] illya: ;-) [19:34] bdieu: if you pay for his trip and papers, I will dispatch it for free [19:34] bdieu: if you pay for his trip and papers, I will dispatch it for free [19:34] illya: the cat wouldn't appreciate it [19:34] jenverschoor: My family specially my daughters wanted my dog to have puppies [19:35] patricia.glogowski: personal delivery :) [19:35] illya: my son just 'can I have one?' [19:35] illya: said [19:35] jenverschoor: Instead I created a Blog full of games!! [19:35] namckeand: A blog is easier to maintain! [19:36] illya: no walking or feeding [19:36] patricia.glogowski: i can't have dogs in my building, so i never had a dog [19:36] sabridv: I used to have one but I suffered a lot when she died sp I don't want another one [19:37] sabridv: though I love dogs [19:37] bdieu: I lkove dogs but 10 is a bit of an exaggeration :-) [19:37] bdieu: I lkove dogs but 10 is a bit of an exaggeration :-) [19:37] jenverschoor: I had one dog 19 years sabrina so I understand your feeling [19:38] bdieu: http://flickr.com/photos/bee/tags/giantschnauzer/ [19:38] bdieu: http://flickr.com/photos/bee/tags/giantschnauzer/ [19:38] namckeand: My son was really upset when his dog died. It took years for him to want another one. [19:38] bdieu: http://flickr.com/photos/bee/tags/dogs/ [19:38] bdieu: http://flickr.com/photos/bee/tags/dogs/ [19:38] illya: Thanks,Bee. I was just looking for that [19:39] patricia.glogowski: i can imagine that, nancy. my uncled had a dog and it died 3 years ago and i still miss him [19:39] namckeand: Yeah, my son was about 12 at the time. [19:40] bdieu: hmmm.the link is not clickable here [19:40] bdieu: hmmm.the link is not clickable here [19:40] namckeand: I was noticing that, Bee. [19:40] illya: Hi Ann, how are you doing? [19:40] jenverschoor: No must copy paste [19:41] jenverschoor: Lucy thanks for your lovely comment Glad to have you with us!! [19:42] sabridv: I'm a bit disconnected from everything here because I have just arrived from my holidays [19:42] sabridv: and i didn't have a good internet connection [19:42] jenverschoor: I´m at a cybercafe still no connection home and no telephone [19:43] namckeand: I had trouble with my connection last night, too. I was afraid I might not be able to participate today. But all is well at the moment. [19:43] patricia.glogowski: i lost images on my blog. anybody has the same problem? [19:43] bdieu: connections are a problem - no connected in the countryside either - so had to come to the cybercafe (5 km form my place) [19:43] bdieu: connections are a problem - no connected in the countryside either - so had to come to the cybercafe (5 km form my place) [19:43] illya: were they from the internet? [19:43] namckeand: Lost images? No. Fortunately. At least not that I am aware of. [19:44] sabridv: well, apparently the net is not very reliable we have all had problems apparently [19:44] jenverschoor: Hello Mabel how are you? [19:44] patricia.glogowski: no they were on my computer and then i uploaded it to my wodpress [19:45] illya: strange [19:45] namckeand: At least you should be able to replace them, then. But where would they go? [19:45] patricia.glogowski: very strange never happened before [19:45] illya: haven't had that problem, but sometimes wordpress is slow [19:45] illya: I think it's a connection prob. not worpress [19:46] jenverschoor: Never heard about it but will be careful next time I upload pictures [19:46] bdieu: did you send them to the editor (your post) after uploading them? [19:46] bdieu: did you send them to the editor (your post) after uploading them? [19:46] patricia.glogowski: yes [19:47] bdieu: are they a jpg, png format? [19:47] bdieu: are they a jpg, png format? [19:47] sabridv: well, I'm sorry but I'll have to leave [19:47] patricia.glogowski: they are there on wordpress account but don't appear on the blog [19:47] namckeand: Bye! [19:47] sabridv: nice to meet you all [19:47] sabridv: bye [19:48] AnnF: can anybody see my messages? I can't [19:48] illya: sorry that you have to go now. [19:48] illya: bye [19:48] namckeand: I see it, Ann. [19:48] illya: I can see your message, Ann [19:48] bdieu: I can read you Ann [19:48] bdieu: I can read you Ann [19:48] patricia.glogowski: i think jpg [19:48] bdieu: can you read us? [19:48] bdieu: can you read us? [19:48] jenverschoor: yes Ann [19:48] AnnF: yes, me too, but I've written about 3 before that didn't appear, strange [19:49] bdieu: it takes some time [19:49] bdieu: it takes some time [19:49] illya: did you make a slash before? [19:49] namckeand: Another strange occurrance! [19:49] Misy: Hello everybody [19:49] bdieu: to appear sometimes [19:49] bdieu: to appear sometimes [19:49] namckeand: Hi! [19:49] AnnF: so, hi to all [19:49] jenverschoor: Bye,bye Sabrina [19:49] illya: Hi Misy [19:49] bdieu: Hi Misy [19:49] bdieu: Hi Misy [19:49] namckeand: hI, aNN! [19:49] jenverschoor: Hello Misy Welcome to the chat!! [19:49] bdieu: Welcome [19:49] bdieu: Welcome [19:49] patricia.glogowski: they are back, sorry for the alarm must have been the connection then [19:49] Misy: thanks. I hope not to be late [19:50] bdieu: you are right in time [19:50] bdieu: you are right in time [19:50] illya: no, your early. nice to have you here [19:50] namckeand: Glad they are back! [19:50] illya: actually we all are :-) [19:50] jenverschoor: We are early birds :-) [19:50] AnnF: had probems putting del.icio.us badge on WordPress blog - doesn't seem to like javascript in text box [19:51] illya: no, it doesn't. [19:51] Misy: me too, Ann [19:51] namckeand: Yes, me too. I finally put an RSS feed up. [19:51] illya: did you see Rudolf's message? [19:51] patricia.glogowski: annf, did you use your username? [19:51] patricia.glogowski: i think that's all what i needed to do [19:51] namckeand: Good question, Patricia. Bet that was it. [19:51] illya: wordpress is rather restrictive [19:52] illya: keeps its sites safe by avoiding some coding [19:52] namckeand: But I like wordpress a lot anyway. [19:52] jenverschoor: Me too [19:52] illya: a lot of possibilities with the different pages [19:53] namckeand: Many times there are work-arounds. You just have to look for them. [19:53] jenverschoor: True that with Blogger you can add many more Widgets [19:53] AnnF: yes, used username [19:54] jenverschoor: But you have the about pages that are wonderful in Wordpress [19:54] bdieu: I had no problems with Flickr nor Delicious...have just posted a message [19:54] bdieu: I had no problems with Flickr nor Delicious...have just posted a message [19:54] namckeand: I love the pages in wordpress, too. [19:55] patricia.glogowski: i didn't have any problems either. it actually seems to be working well [19:55] illya: I should do more with them [19:55] illya: the pages [19:55] patricia.glogowski: did you guys posted the buttons smielt and dekita? [19:55] illya: :-) yo betcha! [19:55] namckeand: I have my portfolio set up on a wordpress blog and use the pages a lot there. [19:55] namckeand: Yes, I now have buttons, too. [19:56] illya: Nancy, I saw your protfolio and helped my husband set one up on wordpress too [19:56] bdieu: check the smielt test blog [19:56] bdieu: check the smielt test blog [19:56] illya: it's useful to have good models [19:56] namckeand: Glad to know that. I have had fun with it. [19:56] bdieu: http://smielt08.wordpress.com [19:56] bdieu: http://smielt08.wordpress.com [19:56] namckeand: Yes. Mosdels helo a lot. [19:56] namckeand: Models help a lot, that is. [19:57] bdieu: no problems with the widgets at all [19:57] bdieu: no problems with the widgets at all [19:58] AnnF: Is it possible that the widget can be affected by which WordPress presentation you use? [19:58] illya: Bee,please share the coding :-) [19:58] namckeand: Darn, Bee. How come I can't do it? [19:58] illya: each template has different possiblities, depending on the adeveloper [19:58] jenverschoor: Which steps do you follow? [19:58] illya: there are a couple with very few possiblitites [19:59] patricia.glogowski: yes, i think it's possible that the template may have something to do with the widget problems [19:59] jenverschoor: You can add many things to your Wordpress blog [19:59] bdieu: you need to force the template by using the widgets [19:59] bdieu: you need to force the template by using the widgets [19:59] bdieu: it´s very easy [19:59] bdieu: it´s very easy [19:59] illya: and you can change your template whenever you like [19:59] namckeand: Yes, but if you can add widgets, I would think you could add it. [19:59] namckeand: But I haven't been able to get del.icio.us to work. [19:59] jenverschoor: You can add widgets [19:59] illya: you shouldn't lose anyting, but I don't knwo about the widgets [19:59] bdieu: I have posted to the forum [19:59] bdieu: I have posted to the forum [19:59] namckeand: A badge, that is. [20:00] bdieu: yes [20:00] bdieu: yes [20:00] namckeand: You can lose which widgets show up. You might have to paly with them again if you change presentations. [20:00] bdieu: wordpress accepts the scripts in the sidebar as long as they are inserted in the widget [20:00] bdieu: wordpress accepts the scripts in the sidebar as long as they are inserted in the widget [20:00] namckeand: play [20:00] AnnF: In the end I used the RSS widget for del.icio.us [20:00] namckeand: Maybe I used the wrong script. [20:01] illya: trial and error [20:01] namckeand: Me, too, Ann. [20:01] patricia.glogowski: there is a delicious widget - that didn't work? [20:01] bdieu: you have to get the del.icio.us widget from the presentation page and configure it [20:01] bdieu: you have to get the del.icio.us widget from the presentation page and configure it [20:01] patricia.glogowski: it only asks for username [20:01] bdieu: you must configure it by clicking on it twice [20:01] bdieu: you must configure it by clicking on it twice [20:01] bdieu: then you must insert your delicious login [20:01] bdieu: then you must insert your delicious login [20:02] bdieu: and decide how many links you want to use [20:02] bdieu: and decide how many links you want to use [20:02] namckeand: I did all that, but it didn't show links, only linked to my account. [20:02] AnnF: I've started twittering - don't know whether I'l get hooked [20:02] bdieu: yes..username and number of links [20:02] bdieu: yes..username and number of links [20:02] patricia.glogowski: sorry it asks for delicious login which is your username [20:02] namckeand: I doubt that I will get hooked, but it is fun. [20:02] namckeand: Twitter, that is. [20:02] bdieu: twittering was really helpful for me while I was travelling [20:02] bdieu: twittering was really helpful for me while I was travelling [20:03] namckeand: Why? How? [20:03] bdieu: met a lot of kindred souls thanks to it :-) [20:03] bdieu: met a lot of kindred souls thanks to it :-) [20:03] illya: I was extremely sceptical, but I think I'm getting it [20:03] namckeand: OK. [20:03] jenverschoor: It´s just great when you don´t have time to blog [20:03] illya: just now realizing the possiblities [20:03] bdieu: as I twittered where I was, people contacted me and we went out for drinks and diner [20:03] bdieu: as I twittered where I was, people contacted me and we went out for drinks and diner [20:03] namckeand: But I find I don't have enough to say. I invent stuff, and it is silly stuff. [20:03] AnnF: reminded me of this chat [20:03] bdieu: much fun [20:03] bdieu: much fun [20:04] illya: when collaborating, you can let others know when you aren't around [20:04] illya: if you need help [20:04] jenverschoor: Illya just read your Twitter message [20:04] bdieu: it is also very helpful at conferences [20:04] bdieu: it is also very helpful at conferences [20:04] patricia.glogowski: twitter is like 24/7 chat [20:04] bdieu: you summarize the key points for the others [20:04] bdieu: you summarize the key points for the others [20:04] illya: or just stay in contact, like now with my mother (far away)$ [20:04] jenverschoor: And as Professional development [20:04] AnnF: but I'm worried about it eating away my time [20:04] namckeand: That makes sense. [20:04] jenverschoor: you are constantly informed of many conferences and chats [20:04] illya: it's only 140 letters [20:05] namckeand: How do you find them, Jennifer? [20:05] illya: i can see it with students. [20:05] bdieu: also keeps you updated on the latest events [20:05] bdieu: also keeps you updated on the latest events [20:05] jenverschoor: Like this one:-) [20:05] namckeand: Students would love it, I'm sure. [20:05] illya: express yourself coherently within this framework [20:05] illya: write poetry [20:05] bdieu: mine did not appreciate it much [20:05] bdieu: mine did not appreciate it much [20:05] namckeand: Why? [20:05] patricia.glogowski: immerse yourself in the techie environment :) will not feel like it's eating your time. it will be your life :) [20:06] bdieu: because they do text messages on their mobiles [20:06] bdieu: because they do text messages on their mobiles [20:06] bdieu: but I showed them they could do this from the mobiles [20:06] bdieu: but I showed them they could do this from the mobiles [20:06] jenverschoor: Add for example EdTalks to our Twitter account and you will be always updated [20:06] namckeand: But I guess that's why I thought they would like it. [20:06] illya: and? [20:06] bdieu: and they had a network [20:06] bdieu: and they had a network [20:06] AnnF: yep, 140 letters but then you start rading... [20:06] namckeand: Thanks, Jen. [20:06] bdieu: 140 letters is good for summarizing key points [20:06] bdieu: 140 letters is good for summarizing key points [20:06] jenverschoor: True Bee [20:07] bdieu: could be used for collaborative precis writing [20:07] bdieu: could be used for collaborative precis writing [20:07] jenverschoor: Students will love this more than writing a blog post [20:07] patricia.glogowski: 140 letters is not much ;( [20:07] bdieu: or have them listen to a podcast [20:07] bdieu: or have them listen to a podcast [20:07] namckeand: 140 characters is both good and bad, I guess. [20:07] bdieu: and twitter the main points [20:07] bdieu: and twitter the main points [20:07] illya: Here's an example of using it in a class: http://twittories.wikispaces.com/The Darkness Inside [20:08] jenverschoor: Hello Gabriela welcome to the chat!! [20:08] Gabriela: hi [20:08] AnnF: I think students should will choose the social networking forms that suit them [20:08] Lucy: Hi, this is going so fast, hard to read fast enough to keep up [20:08] illya: Hi Gabriela ! [20:08] bdieu: collective story writing...yes... [20:08] bdieu: collective story writing...yes... [20:08] Gabriela: I'm a bit lost [20:08] jenverschoor: For homework to remind them [20:08] namckeand: Hi, Gabriela! [20:08] bdieu: HI gabriela..welcome [20:08] bdieu: HI gabriela..welcome [20:08] jenverschoor: thanks for sharing it Illya will take a look at it later [20:08] Lucy: There's only 8 of us on here and it's scrolling so fast [20:09] jenverschoor: Hello mark nice to see you back [20:09] markosborne: Hi, there. [20:09] illya: Gabriela, don't worry, just take your time to get a feel for the conversation and join in when you feel ready [20:09] namckeand: That looks really neat, Illya. [20:09] illya: Hi Mark [20:09] Gabriela: I'm lost in general [20:09] Gabriela: not only here [20:09] Lucy: Not so daunting only writing 140 chars [20:10] Lucy: Hi Gabriela, they seem to be chatting about twitter [20:10] illya: hello guest 13, can you perhaps introduce yourself? [20:10] namckeand: What can we do to help you, Gabriela? [20:10] guest-13: | ||| || | | | [20:10] guest-10: | ||| || | | | [20:10] Gabriela: 140 is the clue [20:10] jenverschoor: This Wiki from Claudia Ceraso is a great source of information on how to start with Twitter http://twitter-casts.wikispaces.com/ [20:10] Gabriela: i was away for a week [20:11] Gabriela: you've been working a lot [20:11] jenverschoor: How was the weather in Uruguay? [20:11] namckeand: Oh, so you are trying to catch up. [20:11] Gabriela: changing [20:11] Gabriela: unpredictable [20:11] Gabriela: but no rain [20:11] jenverschoor: Followed you on Twitter Gaby [20:11] Gabriela: got hooked [20:11] Lucy: Guest 13 seems to speak binary [20:11] patricia.glogowski: i've tagged the wikis that you posted SMiELT08 on my delicious for anybody who wants to use them [20:11] namckeand: Hi, Mark! [20:11] bdieu: guests cannot post [20:11] bdieu: guests cannot post [20:12] bdieu: you must be logged in [20:12] bdieu: you must be logged in [20:12] namckeand: Thanks, Patricia. [20:12] patricia.glogowski: :) [20:12] jenverschoor: Great Patricia will also add it to our Tutorials [20:12] guest-13: > guests cannot post [20:12] guest-10: > guests cannot post [20:12] Lucy: How do we change colour on this thing? [20:12] illya: log out and log in again. It's automatic [20:13] illya: useful to tell who is 'talking' [20:13] bdieu: you are a special guest then...lol [20:13] bdieu: you are a special guest then...lol [20:14] namckeand: Nice color, Lucy! [20:14] namckeand: Oops! Guess she didn't like it! [20:14] illya: Hello Rudolf :-) [20:14] namckeand: Hi, Rudolf! [20:14] Rudolf: hi, I'm guest 13 [20:14] Gabriela: the ghost [20:15] Rudolf: Hi y'all. [20:15] Lucy: Ah, now I can see you all again! [20:15] bdieu: I thought you were - le fantôme de l'opera [20:15] bdieu: I thought you were - le fantôme de l'opera [20:15] Rudolf: =) [20:15] bdieu: Welcome Rudolf [20:15] bdieu: Welcome Rudolf [20:15] illya: Lucy-doyou like this color better? [20:15] Lucy: Ah Rudo is guest 13 that explains the binary speak [20:15] jenverschoor: Hello Rudolf glad you joined us!! [20:15] Rudolf: |||| ||| [20:16] AnnF: Mark seems to be doing musical chairs [20:16] Lucy: lovely colour, thatnks. Sorry to distract you all from serious smielting [20:16] illya: playing is learning :-) [20:16] namckeand: Serious??? [20:16] Gabriela: why don't we say where we are? I love that [20:16] patricia.glogowski: smielting. i like that word :) [20:17] illya: smielting is playing? [20:17] AnnF: Bilbao, Spain, raining here [20:17] Lucy: I'm on the sofa [20:17] markosborne: Musical chairs? [20:17] Gabriela: buenos aire, argentina, sunny [20:17] bdieu: Hi Mark - good to see you here :-) [20:17] bdieu: Hi Mark - good to see you here :-) [20:17] Gabriela: or cloudy [20:17] namckeand: Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA cold and damp [20:17] AnnF: in and out maybe I meant hide and seek [20:17] Rudolf: North London, cold. [20:17] illya: lucerne, switzerland - cold and snowly [20:17] Lucy: OK, I'm in Munich, Germany and we had a glorious sunny day today [20:17] bdieu: Cybercafe in Mairinque, Brazil - two tvs screaming soccer game and carnival..argh [20:17] bdieu: Cybercafe in Mairinque, Brazil - two tvs screaming soccer game and carnival..argh [20:18] jenverschoor: Buenos Aires, Argentina drinking mate a kind of tea [20:18] Lucy: Carnival here too [20:18] Gabriela: drinking mate tto [20:18] AnnF: rain is carnival weather in Bilbao, everyone has to wear woolly tights [20:18] illya: Carneval here too [20:18] jenverschoor: They won´t understand what mate is [20:18] bdieu: sleevless Tshirt and shorts...but melting [20:18] bdieu: sleevless Tshirt and shorts...but melting [20:18] illya: tee [20:18] bdieu: mate is a kind of tea [20:18] bdieu: mate is a kind of tea [20:19] illya: bee - (s)mielting ;-) [20:19] markosborne: I'm actually attending 2 sessions simultaneously - multitasking [20:19] bdieu: typical drink in the South of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguai [20:19] bdieu: typical drink in the South of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguai [20:19] namckeand: You're good if you can do this and anything else! [20:19] markosborne: And enjoying a glass of dry white wine... [20:19] patricia.glogowski: hey, don't complain, i had a snow snow on friday - the city was immobilized didn't go to work [20:19] patricia.glogowski: snow storm i mean [20:20] Gabriela: two minutes, i'll show you [20:20] Gabriela: mark, where are you? [20:20] bdieu: Does anyone have any doubts or suggestions for SMiELT? [20:20] bdieu: Does anyone have any doubts or suggestions for SMiELT? [20:20] illya: you're making me thirsty! brb [20:21] Lucy: I love smilet, it's so full of useful stuff, I just can't keep up! [20:21] markosborne: I'm currently in Athens, Greece. And it's been mild here today. [20:22] Gabriela: greek wine? [20:22] Lucy: Each suggestion or link sends me off on an adventure in the web [20:22] namckeand: It is alwlays a challene to do all the things we suggest in these sessions. [20:22] Lucy: This is making me thirsty, I'm off to order something to drink [20:22] bdieu: which you bookmark in your delicious and link to your post, right? hehehe [20:22] bdieu: which you bookmark in your delicious and link to your post, right? hehehe [20:22] markosborne: Yes, Greek wine. It's very good. [20:22] namckeand: You sometimes have to pick and shoose. [20:23] namckeand: choose [20:23] Lucy: I do delicious most stuff [20:23] Gabriela: never tried [20:23] Lucy: shoes [20:23] Lucy: brb [20:23] jenverschoor: Have you all chosen one of the groups in the wiki for next week? [20:23] bdieu: this is what the internet is all about - filter what you need...bookmark what you find interesting...go back and try it out [20:23] bdieu: this is what the internet is all about - filter what you need...bookmark what you find interesting...go back and try it out [20:23] namckeand: Never tried greek wine or del.icio.us, Gabriela? [20:23] Gabriela: yes, wikis [20:24] jenverschoor: Remember that you can join more than one if you want [20:24] AnnF: looking at people's blogs, I think we're all flagging a bit [20:24] Gabriela: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7533887@N06/2240177146/ [20:24] Gabriela: that a mate [20:24] Gabriela: ?s [20:24] markosborne: I've signed up for 2: social bookmarking & wikis [20:24] jenverschoor: Great Mark :-) [20:25] markosborne: My blog is currently a complete embarrassment - most of my time has been taken up with trying to keep up with the reading and signing up for the various tools. [20:25] Gabriela: hi Jose luis [20:25] Lucy: I've signed up for blogs and wikis [20:26] bdieu: Welcome Jose Luis - have you followed my twit? [20:26] bdieu: Welcome Jose Luis - have you followed my twit? [20:26] bdieu: We will have a whole week on wikis next week (ourf lots of wki week) [20:26] bdieu: We will have a whole week on wikis next week (ourf lots of wki week) [20:26] joseluiscabello: Hello everybody [20:26] bdieu: Wayne [20:26] bdieu: Wayne [20:26] markosborne: I'm very pleased that this course has meant that I've come to grips with many of the things I've been meaning to look at more closely for ages. [20:26] AnnF: looking forward to wikis [20:27] joseluiscabello: Yes Bee, thank you for reminding me [20:27] jenverschoor: Hello Jose Luis [20:27] bdieu: Mc Intosh from Wikieducator [20:27] bdieu: Mc Intosh from Wikieducator [20:27] bdieu: will be talking to us [20:27] bdieu: will be talking to us [20:27] bdieu: probably on Wednesday [20:27] bdieu: probably on Wednesday [20:27] patricia.glogowski: great mark! [20:27] jenverschoor: Great to read this!! [20:27] patricia.glogowski: hi jose :) [20:27] Lucy: It's quite daunting how for every tool you learn about, there are another ten new ones you've never heard of [20:28] namckeand: But gradually, you can add to what you know. [20:28] illya: It's continual growth - some stay and others fade away [20:28] patricia.glogowski: what you like and what you need [20:28] bdieu: I am gald you are enjoying it Mark and lookig forward to your feedback so we can improve on it [20:28] bdieu: I am gald you are enjoying it Mark and lookig forward to your feedback so we can improve on it [20:28] Gabriela: it's challenging [20:28] jenverschoor: That´s exactly why I find this so wonderful [20:28] namckeand: It would be hard to use them all. [20:28] joseluiscabello: Pownce, for example, is better than Twitter [20:28] patricia.glogowski: becomes easier with time [20:28] jenverschoor: Only if I have a second life :-) [20:28] joseluiscabello: But Twitter was the first and we stay where people are [20:28] illya: you can tell wich ones to have a closer look at by the number of people using them [20:29] illya: and seeing how they use them [20:29] bdieu: Lucy...once you get the gist...it is easier with the others..hence my questions in week 1 to observe, compare, contrast and the language used [20:29] bdieu: Lucy...once you get the gist...it is easier with the others..hence my questions in week 1 to observe, compare, contrast and the language used [20:29] AnnF: is Pownce similar to twitter? [20:29] Gabriela: and what for [20:29] Lucy: Yes, Pownce offers much more, but sometimes it's nice to be restricted [20:29] markosborne: Yes, I agree Lucy. [20:29] joseluiscabello: Similar, but you can share files [20:29] illya: to each a purpose (or 2 or 3) [20:29] jenverschoor: It´s sometimes hard to change once you get used to the tool [20:30] Lucy: Pownce lets you embed pics and videos and doesn't limit your message length [20:30] bdieu: as Alan Levine mentioned in one of his presentations - you learn a lot just by being there :-) [20:30] bdieu: as Alan Levine mentioned in one of his presentations - you learn a lot just by being there :-) [20:30] Lucy: You make friends on one tool and want to stay there [20:30] Gabriela: that's true [20:30] patricia.glogowski: then pownce becomes like blogging or facebook [20:30] jenverschoor: Just by lurking [20:30] joseluiscabello: Right, Jennifer, for example, Stumble Upon, Mr Wong, people say are better than Delicious [20:30] Lucy: You become a friends junkie and try to up your followers numbers [20:30] AnnF: I found changing tools e.g. form Blogger to WordPress quite a trial [20:30] bdieu: it´s a different tool then, Lucy - more like a blog [20:30] bdieu: it´s a different tool then, Lucy - more like a blog [20:31] jenverschoor: I also heard that but I like delicious [20:31] Lucy: Seems so, [20:31] patricia.glogowski: stay with one tool you like [20:31] patricia.glogowski: too much diversity can lead to your online death [20:31] jenverschoor: In general it´s the first one [20:31] bdieu: I like to experiment with different ones - and then I can choose [20:31] bdieu: I like to experiment with different ones - and then I can choose [20:31] joseluiscabello: I also prefer Delicious because I am used to it and have my network there [20:31] AnnF: wouldn't eant that [20:31] bdieu: the one that best fits my purpose [20:31] bdieu: the one that best fits my purpose [20:32] Lucy: Often the case with these things, there are no clear demarkations [20:32] Lucy: Yes, and it's the one you know [20:32] jenverschoor: I also like Facebook but can´t see how to apply it with my students [20:32] bdieu: what is good is that you can now export your data from one tool to the other [20:32] bdieu: what is good is that you can now export your data from one tool to the other [20:32] namckeand: I started with furl and then moved to del.icio.us. It's hard to change, but not impossible. [20:32] bdieu: this is what I did with my Blogger posts [20:32] bdieu: this is what I did with my Blogger posts [20:32] bdieu: only open tools allow it though [20:32] bdieu: only open tools allow it though [20:32] bdieu: you cannot export data from Facebook for instance [20:32] bdieu: you cannot export data from Facebook for instance [20:33] jenverschoor: I use blogger with my students and wordpress for my professional development [20:33] bdieu: they own all your content [20:33] bdieu: they own all your content [20:33] illya: I don't always look at how to use tools in class [20:33] Lucy: I tried Simpy soon after starting with delicious but it had too many bugs [20:33] AnnF: I like drupal, it's more flexible than moodle [20:33] bdieu: and can do whatever they want with it [20:33] bdieu: and can do whatever they want with it [20:33] bdieu: Moodle is a learning management system [20:33] bdieu: Moodle is a learning management system [20:33] namckeand: I imported my blogger blog to my wordpress blog a while back, but I couldn't get myself to give up blogger. Now I am glad I didn't. [20:33] illya: sometimes they are helpful just in my developemtn as a teacher outside the classroom walls [20:33] patricia.glogowski: i have to use blackboard at school pain [20:33] jenverschoor: Me too I find Drupal very interesting and Rudolf helped out a lot [20:33] namckeand: I love Moodle. [20:34] Gabriela: I cannot get used to wordpress [20:34] Lucy: I've been happy with blogger. Offers lots of different language scripts (e.g. Thai) which I need cause I support teachers of other languages [20:34] namckeand: Whay, Gabriela? [20:34] bdieu: what are the advantages of blogger, Nancy? [20:34] bdieu: what are the advantages of blogger, Nancy? [20:34] markosborne: Does changing window focus result in the leaving/joining chat messages coming up? [20:34] namckeand: For me it isn't an advantage as mucha s habit. [20:34] Gabriela: I doesn't let me do anything [20:34] joseluiscabello: I think Blogger is easier to manage than Wordpress [20:34] Gabriela: or I don't know [20:34] AnnF: changing window focus - seems like it [20:34] namckeand: I t has a different feel. [20:34] bdieu: What do you want to do, Gabriela? [20:34] bdieu: What do you want to do, Gabriela? [20:34] Lucy: Blogger has a pretty simple interface [20:34] Lucy: That's good for my needs [20:34] namckeand: Or maybe people jsut know me there. [20:35] Gabriela: edit [20:35] namckeand: A post? [20:35] patricia.glogowski: everybody left suddenly? [20:35] Gabriela: template [20:35] Lucy: I'm still here [20:35] namckeand: Seems like, [20:35] Gabriela: change things [20:35] jenverschoor: I think that is the key question it all depends on what you want to do [20:35] namckeand: Was it something we said? [20:35] namckeand: Good, Lucy. Thanks. [20:35] Lucy: Need to change our deodorant# [20:35] patricia.glogowski: i like blogger and i like wordpress. both are cool [20:36] bdieu: people are being ejected or are they leaving? [20:36] bdieu: people are being ejected or are they leaving? [20:36] patricia.glogowski: i think they left voluntarily [20:36] bdieu: lol, Lucy [20:36] bdieu: lol, Lucy [20:36] markosborne: Was it something I said? [20:36] bdieu: Must be the connection [20:36] bdieu: Must be the connection [20:36] AnnF: maybe something to do with our connections? [20:36] illya: maybe just looking at another page? [20:36] illya: it also thows you out [20:36] namckeand: Seems like people are here but not showing up on my screen as being here. [20:37] illya: I can't see Jose [20:37] patricia.glogowski: the good thing is that the colours have changed, so now it's easier to see who says what [20:37] patricia.glogowski: after they left and came bacak [20:37] namckeand: Well, there are fewer of us. That makes it easier, too. [20:37] jenverschoor: I can see him [20:37] AnnF: 12 people on my screen [20:37] jenverschoor: I have 12 users [20:37] illya: where? [20:37] Gabriela: me too [20:37] patricia.glogowski: right side [20:37] illya: I have 5, no 4 [20:37] markosborne: I'd just like everyone to know that I didn't choose my color. [20:37] namckeand: Me, too. [20:37] bdieu: I have just refreshed [20:37] bdieu: I have just refreshed [20:37] patricia.glogowski: refresh, illya or go somewhere else [20:37] jenverschoor: refresh [20:37] namckeand: No patricia, no mark. [20:38] patricia.glogowski: it's not bad, mark :) [20:38] Lucy: I was thinking of starting a virtual staffroom (for my institution) with Moodle but now I'm considering Ning. What do you guys think? [20:38] bdieu: 9 people me [20:38] bdieu: 9 people me [20:38] jenverschoor: but bring some Swiss chocolate to the conversation Illya [20:38] AnnF: think you need alest me if new users checked to see everyone [20:38] namckeand: Now they are all here. [20:38] markosborne: I can see 9 [20:38] joseluiscabello: For an institution, better Moodle [20:38] patricia.glogowski: 12 i insist [20:38] illya: Jenn, thanks for the tip! [20:38] bdieu: Check whether you can keep your data if ever Ning closes down [20:38] bdieu: Check whether you can keep your data if ever Ning closes down [20:38] Lucy: jose, why? [20:38] Gabriela: 10 [20:38] illya: Hi Jose, hello Maryann [20:39] jenverschoor: Welcome Maryann [20:39] joseluiscabello: Because there is a better control [20:39] bdieu: Welcome Maryanne [20:39] bdieu: Welcome Maryanne [20:39] Maryanne: Hello everyone. Sorry I'm late. [20:39] namckeand: Glad to see you. [20:39] Lucy: Thanks bee and jose [20:39] illya: Maryanne-no problem [20:39] bdieu: What kind of control do you need, Jose? [20:39] bdieu: What kind of control do you need, Jose? [20:39] joseluiscabello: By the way, you can WiZiQ to Moodle, for conferences [20:39] markosborne: I can see 10 now there's me 1 guest [20:39] Gabriela: 8 users on the left and 10 on the right [20:40] Lucy: What is WIZIQ [20:40] namckeand: Really? I didn't know that, Jose. [20:40] Gabriela: sth is wrong [20:40] bdieu: it´s a conference platform [20:40] bdieu: it´s a conference platform [20:40] AnnF: About Moodle dupal - with drupal you can configure the control that you want [20:40] patricia.glogowski: everybody left again! [20:40] joseluiscabello: I mean, in Moodle you can control what participants do [20:40] bdieu: Rudolf, is it possible for us to save this chat? [20:40] bdieu: Rudolf, is it possible for us to save this chat? [20:40] Maryanne: It's a great, free teaching tool. [20:40] markosborne: And my colour's changed now [20:40] bdieu: you can configure control on Wordpress as well [20:40] bdieu: you can configure control on Wordpress as well [20:41] Rudolf: yes. [20:41] joseluiscabello: In the sense there are different levels of administration and participation [20:41] illya: The color changes every time you log off and then back on [20:41] Maryanne: I just spent 3 hours in WizIQ through EVO tips and tricks group. [20:41] bdieu: you can even have your posts behind a password if you need it [20:41] bdieu: you can even have your posts behind a password if you need it [20:41] joseluiscabello: Right, but Moodle allows more possibilities [20:41] illya: It's a virtual classroom [20:41] jenverschoor: Wiziq can be used as a virtual classroom [20:41] joseluiscabello: It depends on what we want to do [20:42] bdieu: synchronous classes, yes Jenn [20:42] bdieu: synchronous classes, yes Jenn [20:42] joseluiscabello: Wiziq is a great tool [20:42] Lucy: bee, in WiZIQ? [20:42] AnnF: think it's just looking to see what platform/tool suits the job in hand [20:42] jenverschoor: Wiziq is equipped with live audio-video communication, chat, content sharing, and session recording [20:42] bdieu: WIziq is a conference platform like Elluminate [20:42] bdieu: WIziq is a conference platform like Elluminate [20:42] jenverschoor: Just copied this from the site www.wiziq.com [20:42] bdieu: but again...you do not own your content afterwards [20:42] bdieu: but again...you do not own your content afterwards [20:42] joseluiscabello: Yes, but it's free [20:42] bdieu: it's theirs [20:42] bdieu: it's theirs [20:43] bdieu: the free has a cost [20:43] bdieu: the free has a cost [20:43] Maryanne: What do you mean by "it's theirs", Bee [20:43] patricia.glogowski: never used WIziQ but it seems cool [20:43] joseluiscabello: So what you do there becomes theirs? [20:43] Lucy: Same with Twitter right? [20:43] bdieu: you cannot retrieve your content [20:43] bdieu: you cannot retrieve your content [20:43] jenverschoor: They control it? [20:43] patricia.glogowski: what did you use it for? [20:43] illya: we could set another chat time on wiziq, next Sunday? [20:43] patricia.glogowski: great idea, illya! [20:44] patricia.glogowski: we'll see how it works and what we can use it for [20:44] illya: it's quite straight forward [20:44] bdieu: if you read the legal terms in Facebook for ijnstance you will find out they own all the content and posts you make there [20:44] bdieu: if you read the legal terms in Facebook for ijnstance you will find out they own all the content and posts you make there [20:44] jenverschoor: Could be done at the same time [20:44] patricia.glogowski: 19GMT [20:44] illya: there were critical voices about facebook sharing data with others [20:45] Lucy: Facebook scary ties [20:45] namckeand: It is hard to imagine, Bee, that anyone would want to use the content of a chat like this, for instance. [20:45] patricia.glogowski: microsoft bought flickr everybody is backing up their files [20:45] jenverschoor: I found so many old friend in Facebook [20:45] bdieu: this is the kind of reflection we would like you to engage in [20:45] bdieu: this is the kind of reflection we would like you to engage in [20:45] namckeand: But I can see the danger. [20:45] illya: Great idea, Patricia! [20:46] namckeand: It will be interesting to see what changes that brings. [20:46] illya: sorry, I'm a bit late - the date for next weekend, of course [20:46] jenverschoor: Also heard that Microsoft wants to buy Yahoo [20:46] patricia.glogowski: ok. i got lost for a second [20:46] patricia.glogowski: the date for next sunday is feb 10 [20:46] namckeand: Yahoo owns Flickr. [20:46] illya: microsoft missed the internet boot and wants to catch up [20:47] illya: boat [20:47] Lucy: And Microsoft wants to buy Yahoo [20:47] patricia.glogowski: i think it did already [20:47] bdieu: Well..I must leave you in ten minutes but would like to invite you to join me at the Blogstreams Salon, which I hold every first Sunday of the month at Tappedi [20:47] bdieu: Well..I must leave you in ten minutes but would like to invite you to join me at the Blogstreams Salon, which I hold every first Sunday of the month at Tappedi [20:47] illya: ? that's very new news! [20:47] patricia.glogowski: feb 10 @19 GMT WIZQ - illya [20:47] illya: @ patricia :-) [20:48] bdieu: Is this a conference, Patricia? [20:48] bdieu: Is this a conference, Patricia? [20:48] Maryanne: Bee, what do you do in Blogstreams? [20:48] patricia.glogowski: what conference? [20:48] jenverschoor: Ok I will post it in our SMiELT blog [20:48] bdieu: Wiziq [20:48] bdieu: Wiziq [20:48] illya: bee, meeting again next sunday. discussing experiences, problems, worries, [20:48] bdieu: Maryanne, I usually chat about toolswith whoever comes and we [20:48] bdieu: Maryanne, I usually chat about toolswith whoever comes and we [20:49] patricia.glogowski: i think it's going to be a chat at wiziq - illya? [20:49] illya: joys :-) [20:49] illya: we can try [20:49] bdieu: sometimes have guest speakers [20:49] bdieu: sometimes have guest speakers [20:49] patricia.glogowski: always open to try new tools :) [20:49] illya: audio as well. there's an option ,but not obligatory [20:49] bdieu: I´d like to remind you that we have Wayne McIntosh this week [20:49] bdieu: I´d like to remind you that we have Wayne McIntosh this week [20:49] Maryanne: I think one person has to set up the "room" for the get-together in WizIQ [20:49] illya: we won't forget him [20:49] jenverschoor: We will be there [20:49] bdieu: who will be talking about Wikieducator and if I am not mistaken [20:49] bdieu: who will be talking about Wikieducator and if I am not mistaken [20:50] Maryanne: Thanks Bee [20:50] patricia.glogowski: can he join us? [20:50] AnnF: have to go, bye all! [20:50] illya: bee, do you have a time yet? I'll be away during the day [20:50] bdieu: offering 200 hours of wiki training [20:50] bdieu: offering 200 hours of wiki training [20:50] bdieu: Join you where? [20:50] bdieu: Join you where? [20:50] illya: bye Ann [20:50] jenverschoor: Bye Ann have a great day!! [20:50] bdieu: Thanks for coming Ann [20:50] bdieu: Thanks for coming Ann [20:51] markosborne: Bye, Ann [20:51] Lucy: I'll go off and fiddle more on the Internet now. See you on twitter or in the blogosphere [20:51] Lucy: goodnight [20:51] patricia.glogowski: i changed my twitter background. can you guys see? [20:51] illya: bye lucy, it was great having you here :-) [20:51] bdieu: See youi Lucy [20:51] bdieu: See youi Lucy [20:51] jenverschoor: Bye Lucy!! [20:51] namckeand: Bye, Lucy! [20:51] Gabriela: bye [20:51] Maryanne: Bye Lucy [20:51] patricia.glogowski: graham inspired me [20:52] illya: lime green! [20:52] illya: like rudolf right now :-) [20:52] namckeand: Nice background, Patricia! [20:52] jenverschoor: Why is mark all the time joining in and out? [20:52] joseluiscabello: like the bamboo picture [20:53] patricia.glogowski: thanks. i took it myself when i was in a small village in japan - bamboo forest [20:53] markosborne: Switching windows [20:53] illya: I love bamboo - have some in front of my house [20:53] jenverschoor: ok [20:53] patricia.glogowski: envy you! [20:53] illya: mark - try opening a separate tab to change windows [20:54] illya: then you aren't kicked out each time [20:54] guest-30: What's the topic of discussion, ladies and gentlemen? [20:54] bdieu: /patricia.glogowski do you have time to meet at tappedin now? [20:54] bdieu: /patricia.glogowski do you have time to meet at tappedin now? [20:54] joseluiscabello: Just chatting about tools [20:55] patricia.glogowski: bee, no i am sorry. i have guest coming over ;( wish i could [20:55] markosborne: It's another app [20:55] patricia.glogowski: i've japanized my twitter [20:55] joseluiscabello: Any of you has ever used Joomla? [20:55] bdieu: I have not [20:55] bdieu: I have not [20:55] patricia.glogowski: no, what's joomla? [20:55] jenverschoor: Never used it [20:55] Gabriela: never used and never heard [20:55] joseluiscabello: CMS like Drupal [20:56] namckeand: I know that name, but that;s all. [20:56] joseluiscabello: People tell me is better for building dinamic portals [20:56] patricia.glogowski: it was nice talking to you! i got to go, my guests are here [20:56] joseluiscabello: But I think it hasn't got an aggregator as Drupal [20:56] patricia.glogowski: bye everyone! will read/write on your blogs this week [20:56] markosborne: Bye Patricia [20:56] Gabriela: bye patricia [20:56] patricia.glogowski: bye [20:56] joseluiscabello: Bye Patricia, nice talk [20:56] illya: Bye patricia - enjoy! [20:56] bdieu: See you Patricia [20:56] bdieu: See you Patricia [20:56] Maryanne: Ciao [20:56] jenverschoor: bye, bye Patricia [20:57] bdieu: have a nice time [20:57] bdieu: have a nice time [20:57] bdieu: I believe the aggregator is a module you add, Jose Luis [20:57] bdieu: I believe the aggregator is a module you add, Jose Luis [20:58] bdieu: better ask Rudolf..he is our ghost in the machine :-) [20:58] bdieu: better ask Rudolf..he is our ghost in the machine :-) [20:58] jenverschoor: The machine creator [20:59] jenverschoor: Rudolf links in this chat need to be copied and pasted to view them any other option [20:59] Rudolf: you called? [21:00] Rudolf: bye! [21:00] joseluiscabello: People calling me, have to leave, great to be here with you all. Bye [21:01] namckeand: Bye! [21:01] illya: Bye Jose, thanks for joining us [21:01] Gabriela: bye jose [21:01] Maryanne: Bee, when are you in Blogstreams? [21:01] Gabriela: i have to leave too [21:01] jenverschoor: Bye bye Jose [21:01] jenverschoor: Bye Rudolf [21:01] namckeand: Bye, Gabriela. [21:01] illya: bye gabriela [21:01] jenverschoor: Enjoy your mate Gaby [21:01] Gabriela: you too [21:01] Gabriela: bye [21:02] jenverschoor: Will continue following you on Twitter [21:02] Gabriela: yes [21:02] jenverschoor: See you all on Wednesday [21:02] bdieu: See you during the week on your blogs, SMiELT and the conference with Wayne [21:02] bdieu: See you during the week on your blogs, SMiELT and the conference with Wayne [21:02] Maryanne: When is the conference with Wayne? [21:02] bdieu: probably on Wednesday [21:02] bdieu: probably on Wednesday [21:02] bdieu: Ash Wednesday [21:02] bdieu: Ash Wednesday [21:02] Maryanne: OK [21:02] illya: any time set? [21:03] bdieu: not yet..have not checked my mail [21:03] bdieu: not yet..have not checked my mail [21:03] markosborne: I have to go now. Look forward to the next time. [21:03] bdieu: but will do and let you know ASAP [21:03] bdieu: but will do and let you know ASAP [21:03] namckeand: Bye, Mark! [21:04] bdieu: Thanks for coming mark [21:04] bdieu: Thanks for coming mark [21:04] namckeand: Thanks, Bee. [21:04] illya: Bye mark! [21:04] Maryanne: Bye everyone. I'll try to be on time for the next chat. [21:04] illya: bye Maryanne [21:04] jenverschoor: bye bye Mark [21:04] namckeand: Bye, Maryanne! [21:04] jenverschoor: bye Maryanne have a great day!! [21:04] bdieu: I am moving to Blogstreams http://tappedin.org - if you are free, you are free to join me [21:04] bdieu: I am moving to Blogstreams http://tappedin.org - if you are free, you are free to join me [21:04] bdieu: cio4now [21:04] bdieu: cio4now [21:05] namckeand: Bye, Bee! [21:05] jenverschoor: See you round Bee [21:05] illya: bye everyone, will be following you this week [21:05] jenverschoor: Must go now have a great day!! [21:05] illya: but am away Tues and Wed [21:05] namckeand: Bye! [21:05] illya: bye nancy :-) [21:06] jenverschoor: Bye SMiELT Team and participants!! [21:06] illya: bye rudolf, I hope you enjoyed the ride :-) [21:06] jenverschoor: Thanks for being here :-) [21:07] illya: Bye jenn, take care [21:07] jenverschoor: Thanks you too take care